Once Avila arrived it became apparent that our 7 passenger van wasn't cutting it anymore. Not only was it almost 10 years old but it was completely trashed inside. It became frustrating when we couldn't bring a friend or cousin along when we went anywhere so we started car shopping. The big debate was to just go up to an 8 passenger minivan or to go big and look at a suburban or SUV or NV or transit. Mike wanted to go big but I was afraid to drive anything massive and anything bigger wasn't fitting in the garage. After 3 days of car shopping we ended up with a pre owned Honda Odyssey. We love it. Its so much nicer than our old Odyssey and it has all the bells and whistles like a DVD player which comes in handy on the hour long school pick up.